AD 108 | Michael Shaw
“The Conversation : Art Podcast”

Michael Shaw is an artist and podcast host & producer based in Los Angeles. While working as an artist and writing about art, in late 2011 he started The Conversation Art Podcast, a show that “goes behind the scenes and between the lines of the contemporary art worlds.” Inspired by his own experiences holding down a variety of jobs and projects over the years to support himself, and wanting to reach a wider audience than the niche of the art world, he created his 2nd podcast, How I Get By, to address concepts including day jobs, living on a wide spectrum of income levels and general work/life satisfaction. You can see his art at

Show Notes: 
  • Why he started his podcast, “The Conversation: Art Podcast”
  • Our experiences podcasting and our interactions with listeners
  • Social experimentation
  • Collaboration
  • Seneca
  • Obscure films
  • The Italian Film, “The Best of Youth”
  • The films, “Lady Bird”, “Manchester by the Sea”, and “Sorry To Bother You”
  • Pop music and popular podcasts

The Conversation Art Podcast on iTunes

Posted 11.19.2018


"I started this series as a means for exploration, an exploration of self, and an exploration of the perspectives of other artists.

This series is an unabridged documentation of conversations between artists. It’s a series dedicated to breaking down the barriers we tend to set up in our own minds. I want to inspire future creatives to have the courage to explore and experiment. This is about making dreams a reality and not about letting our dreams fall to the wayside.

My intention is to give my audience a sense of real human connection, something that feels rich and organic.

When I was thinking of a title I thought of the word “movement”.

In relation to the Renaissance period in art, my goal for this program is to signify a rebirth of consciousness towards the way we look at contemporary art."

- Yoshino